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Critical Q&A #28

The weekly show where I answer questions from comments left on my Q&A shows or sent by email to AskChrisShelton@gmail.com. This week, a big shoutout goes to my son, Joshua Tindall for his YouTube channel called theguywithawheel23.

(1) Was Hubbard’s weird book “Excalibur” ever printed out?

(2) In an earlier answer you gave about OT III, you said “Again, this is all within the Scientology belief system” and go on to clarify Hubbard’s unoriginal idea that the identity of a person is a spiritual thing not confined to the physical universe. Hubbard claims a “thetan” becomes “trapped” in the physical universe. So if it wasn’t “aliens” getting transported into volcanoes, per Hubbard’s imagined fantasy, what do you think it was? What did they identify with? What was in the ice cubes? A “thetan” trapped in a what, if it wasn’t an alien lifeform. I think Hubbard’s myth need exploding, but not in a cartoon like South Park. Of course, nothing was trapped in any ice cube or transported anywhere, that was Hubbard’s insanity, but it persists and the cognitive dissonance persists.

(3) I know that Hubbard and Scientologists despise gays. Did you meet/hear about any gays on staff – if so, can you tell how were they treated or their stories; and/or do you know anyone claiming to be ‘cured’ of homosexuality through scientology?”
Thank you very much.

(4) “Everything is always your fault, it always comes back to your responsibility” If this is the group mindset or culture within Scientology, how would you square it with the decline of the church vis a vis David Miscavige? At what point will he be forced to accept that the decline is happening on his watch and that he, as supreme leader, is ultimately responsible for it? Maybe another way to put it is, when Will DM realize that he has ‘pulled in’ what has been happening to Scientology over the past 6 or 8 years (exodus of top leaders, growing number of critics. decline in membership). Isn’t he ultimately responsible?

(5) Hi Chris! After listening to many people who were traumatized by Scientology and eventually came out after some pretty heartbreaking turn of events (losing everything, being physically hurt, losing family…) almost all of them have specifically said “Dont feel sorry for me!” and “it bothers me when I meet people and they tell me Im sorry” that seems to be a theme. No one wants to feel like a charity case but many people DID come through some horrible things and it WILL compel people. Why does this seem to be such running commentary?

(6) Chris, could you explain in detail and with some examples how it is that Scientologists are supposed to be “saving the world”?

2 thoughts on “Critical Q&A #28”

  1. Great vid, thank you. Thank you specifically for the explanation regarding the use of Victim Tech™. I’ve seen it happen and its kinda sad. It seems coupled to another decompression phase some go through where Exes take on *all* the blame and sorta beat themselves up about their experience.

    L Ron Hubbard’s Victim Tech™ is a supremely cynical method of control because Scientologists will, when necessary, become a victim, or at least mock one up. The tactic was explained to me . . .

    The Scientology Dictionary defines “Victim” as “1. a destroyed or threatened with destruction receipt point. 2. a victim is an unwilling and unknowing effect of life, matter, energy, space and time.”

    Also, in Scientology, the word “victim” is sometimes associated with the “dramatizing of a service facsimile,” where someone becomes a “victim” to get sympathy and to gain other perceived advantages.

    “Victims” in Scientology are frowned upon if they are being victims of Scientology.

    BUT THERE’S A TWIST, a SWITCH, a FAST ONE, A TURN AROUND, a GIMMICK, A PLOY, A TRICK – after all this IS Scientology.

    Per its founders confidential instructions one is to USE ENEMY TACTICS, and these include “ABERRATIVE” TACTICS.

    Scientologists, when interacting with “Wogs” (humanoids who, of course, are aberrated) and “SPs” and “DBs,” if it is regarded as forwarding Scientology, will USE ENEMY TACTICS.

    One of the traits of lower (non Scientology) beings is that they “become victims,” and use “being a victim” to their advantage.

    So, following L. Ron Hubbard’s instructions in his “Scientology Philosophy,” when dealing with the ENEMY (including the “Wogs” who are “PTS” – or they’d have become Scientologists – to the “SPs”), one plays at being a VICTIM.

    Scientologists are continually being victimized by the SPs, ANTI-SCIENTOLOGISTS, BIGOTS, the HATERS, the BASHERS, the NATTERERS, the ANTI-RELIGIOUS HATERS AND BIGOTS who “attack their “Scientology religion.”

    The details of this sort of thing can be found in Scientology’s (mostly, but not entirely, non-confidential) PR Tech (and beware, the PR Tech is deceptively multi-layered, as is Scientology over-all), its (mostly confidential) Propaganda Tech (works along with PR Tech), and its (almost entirely confidential) covert “Intelligence Tech.”

    Bits of these usually confidential instructions by Scientology’s founder can be found in Scientology’s founder’s writings and lectures, and these filter (or flow) down to the Scientologists, and shape their thinking.

    Scientologists love to play at being the victim if it’s seen as being an advantageous ploy or trick or gimmick or angle (all terms used by the spiritual leader of the Scientologists, L. Ron Hubbard).

    Scientology is a secretive subject, and one of the traits of a Scientologist is to be influenced by Scientology in ways he/she does not fully understand. So, a Scientologist will sometimes “play the victim card” against a “wog” or “basher” or “SP” without being fully aware of the LRH source material upon which these actions are based.

    One of the reasons why it’s so awkward to talk about Scientology with a Scientologist is that Scientologists don’t fully know what Scientology is. The Scientologist doesn’t know the full contents of the secretive subject to which he/she has given his/her allegiance, and has opened wide his/her mind for “Hubbard Guidance . . .

    . . . I know you do not have the time to explain everything about everything which comes up in the questions you address. Hope you don’t mind me leaving a parallel consideration

  2. Chris,

    David Miscavage is now over 50 and at some point he will pass away (drop his body), or become too ill to rule. He doesn’t seem to have a succession plan. What do you think will happen to the cult when he is no longer able to be in charge? One option is they will simply dissolve and scatter to the wind. However, with the massive fortune held (in both real estate and more liquid assets) do you think there will be a new leader arising from the group, or even a power struggle. There doesn’t seem to be anyone in the cult waiting in the wings. Your thoughts would be interesting.

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