In this 4-part series, I interview my Mom about Scientology, our mutual history with it and how she helped me to escape. In this third part, we talk about disconnection, my life in the Sea Org and why we did not see each other a lot when I was in but how we stayed connected despite every reason Scientology was giving me to get her out of my life.
Your tale proves out Scientology’s fear that your mother would suppress you right out of Scientology and she did! You are so PTS! LOL! (joke, but just reading how ugly what I wrote appears to me makes me hesitate to push send. Oh well, I pushed send anyways. Makes for discussion)
Hi Chris,
I have really been enjoying this interview series with your mom. It’s nice to see you have such a great relationship with each other.
These interviews bring up a couple of concerns that I have had for a while now. I don’t know if you have specifically addressed these in some of your other videos, but if not, maybe you can make some comments here or perhaps in a future video.
I notice in these conversations that your mother’s language is still laced with ‘scientologese’ even though she has been away from the church for a long while. I don’t get the impression that she has a tendency towards identifying as an ‘indie scientologist’ who may still embrace some scientology principles and she certainly doesn’t seem to want anything to do with the official church of scientology.
This brings up the concept of ‘recovery’ in scientology. Not as in recovering from scientology but be being recovered back into scientology. I don’t think your mom would ever be able to be recovered, but I do believe that people who are still using the language still have some connection with the subject even though they may not even be aware of it. You have mentioned in the past that ‘recovery’ was one of your jobs when you were in the sea org and that you were very good at it. Could you explain how you went about recovering people and more importantly now, how people can best avoid being recovered back into scientology.
It is my belief that there are certain personality types that are more prone to being able to be recovered back into any destructive cult (or maybe just another cult with a different flavor) just as some people can have addictive personalities and are easily addicted to whatever. Other people just seem to be immune to these things. Why do you think some people are more susceptible to recovery than others?
Another aspect of these interviews brings up something else for me. Your mom seems to have successfully moved on with her life after scientology and is doing well. She also seems to have been able to let go of attachment to the subject. She also doesn’t seem like the kind of person who would be motivated to post any comments on a critic’s blog. I believe this is the way it is for the vast majority of ex-scientologists as well as ex-cult members of all stripes. When we get out we just want to be out and left alone to recover and get on with our lives as best we can. Some people however seem to be a bit obsessed with being a critic. I have been in both camps at different times of my life. I can see why an ex might want to speak out because they feel so wronged and want to let the world know about it, to warn others away from the cult and its trappings, to unburden themselves by writing about their experiences, etc. I can also see why people would not want to speak out, especially as an ex-scientologist. Fear of reprisal, apathy, disgust, embarrassment, to protect others, etc. Can you comment on what you think it is that motivates people to speak out (or not)? Why do you think a person should speak out (or not)?
Hi very enjoyable thanks for your experience honesty sincerity . Being objective and exterior boy did we believe a lot of postulates that turn out to be lies! You keep getting back to lies when u deal this LRH and I believe he had himself convinced I like Sagan word do u know what u say u know?
Your mom seems like she would have been a great ethics officer!
Great video. Great conversation.
Alanzo