(A presentation on Scientology I gave at The Secular Hub in Denver, Colorado on the evening of March 14, 2015. This transcript is not exactly what I said but this is what I had on the podium when I was talking.)
Hi there!
Well, the Church of Scientology is taking a severe beating in the media right now and the first thing I want to tell you is that they deserve every bit of it. I flew down to Texas a few days ago and saw the new documentary about Scientology that is all over the media. It’s called Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief, based on the book by Pullitzer-prize winning author Lawrence Wright. I also got to meet the director, Alex Gibney and Lawrence Wright at the movie screening.
The point of my presentation is not to talk about the movie, but I will say that it is not just one of the first major documentaries about Scientology, but it is by far one of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen, period. Being as intimate and familiar with the subject matter as I am, I was so happy to see that Alex Gibney did such a good job of not distorting the truth or exaggerating for effect, but instead presented in two hours an accurate representation of what I lived through for 27 years.
I’m going to tell you my personal story with Scientology and then I’ll tell you more about Scientology as a cult and what that means. And after that I’ll answer any questions you have. It is just not possible for me to explain everything about my experience in this short presentation, so I’m just going to give you the best overview I can.
Scientology was invented by a man named L. Ron Hubbard and is defined as an applied religious philosophy which deals with man as a spiritual being, his relationship to himself, other spiritual beings and the universe. Through Scientology methods, one is supposed to be able to remove past emotional and spiritual trauma and free a person so his latent spiritual powers are fully restored. In Scientology, each person is considered to be a being of near god-like power and ability and Hubbard says that it is only by following his closely-taped path that one can achieve that. This is what people who are in Scientology for any length of time are trying to achieve. And when you believe that you are on a quest for total spiritual freedom and ability, you’d be willing to sacrifice nearly anything to attain that.
When I was very young, my parents became Church members and even worked for a Scientology group in Pasadena, California. I had my own on-again-off-again relationship with it but mostly didn’t understand it until I was 15 years old. My parents were great and had never forced it on me, but one day my Dad suggested I go find out what it was all about for myself.
We were living near Santa Barbara at that time. I did their personality test and was convinced that I needed help with communication because I was shy, introverted and had a hard time talking to girls. What I didn’t realize, of course, is that almost every 15 year old boy could be called shy, introverted and has a hard time talking to girls.
I took my first courses and they really did help me somewhat with my communication problems. I continued taking some classes and finished up high school at the same time, after which they recruited me to join staff at the church. I was still an impressionable lad and the love bombing was pretty effective. When you’re 17 and beautiful blond women are telling you how awesome you are and what a great staff member you’d be, you kind of want to join up.
It was an impoverished existence but I plowed through until I was 25. Santa Barbara was a small, struggling Scientology organization that had constant trouble paying its rent and it was pretty much going nowhere. But despite 8 years of watching this, I somehow thought that it was all our fault. I guess it sort of helped that Hubbard kept saying that in his organizational policies. According to him, if you follow his policies then you will be vastly successful, ergo if you are not vastly successful, then the fault is yours because you obviously aren’t following his policies!
I figured I needed to take more responsibility and work harder. I was convinced that if I could just give it my all, I could really make a difference. I had seen people in Los Angeles who were part of the upper levels of Scientology – the Sea Organization. They are the true clergy and form the core group of Scientology’s elite.
I thought, those guys in the Sea Organization give it their all. They work 24/7 and they get taken care of. They don’t have to worry about room or board or medical or any of these things. So I decided it was time for me to “move up”. What I didn’t know was how abusive the Sea Org environment was and how I was about to throw away any idea of self-determined action or personal freedom.
I arrived to the Sea Org in Los Angeles in the summer of 1995. I went immediately into church management, over-seeing all the training and counselling delivery in the Western United States. I had no training for such a large scale executive job, but I quickly found out that no one else did either. We were all “making it go right”. I did that for 8 years until I finally burned out in 2003. I’d lasted longer than most others in the management world, but enough had been enough. There are way too many tales of abuse and craziness for me to tell here. But little did I know that for me, getting myself out of management was not the end of it.
After bouncing around for a year on different jobs, I found myself in trouble and on the Rehabilitation Project Force or RPF. This was really just a result of the burnout. I was at rock bottom as a person and I felt like I had nothing left to live for, so the RPF was actually a kind of hope for me since we were all told that it was about rehabilitation and not punishment.
Well, the only comparison that can be made to the RPF is prison. If you have looked into Scientology at all, you may have heard horror stories about the RPF program and I have to tell you that most of them are true. It was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. We had to run everywhere, were completely sequestered off from everyone else, couldn’t speak to anyone outside the RPF unless spoken to, and there were no such things as days off, vacations or even seeing my wife. It took me a little over 3 years to do it and I did graduate. I was never the same. And I knew that I would leave the Sea Org before I ever considered doing it again. Yes, there are some people who have done the RPF two or even three or more times.
A few months after graduating, I was working on recruiting new Sea Org members. Being successful at it, this led to me working on getting staff for the new big buildings they had cropping up. They called these Ideal Organizations, a massive fundraising and building program which at the time was running full steam ahead.
You see, the problem with the Scientology churches is that they were mainly empty. So one of the ideas behind this big Ideal Org program was basically a kind of “if you build it, they will come” which might have worked nicely in the movies but in real life that is not how you build up anything.
So I was getting people back who had left Scientology and didn’t want to do it anymore. In Scientology, the call this “blowing”. I was good at that because while I may have not loved the organization by this point, I did still believe in the subject. And I truly wanted to help people.
It was while I was out and about, all over the Western United States, that I got to see something most Scientologists don’t see close up. I saw a lot of Ideal Orgs before, during and after they had opened. I saw how empty they were. I saw how difficult it was to get people back into the fold.
Those blown Scientologists told me all the reasons why – the repeated failures of the orgs to deliver what they promised, the mis-run and messed up counselling, the financial rip-offs, the abuses of their confidential information, the stories being told by the media and on the internet. And after seeing more and more cases of people being blown off because of what we were doing – what Scientology was actually doing to them in the name of helping them – it became abundantly clear that this was not what we were being told it was.
In Scientology they train you not to tell lies, but to tell “acceptable truths.” Tell someone about only the good parts and leave out the bad. Don’t talk about the bad news – what they call “entheta” – and only pump up the parts you want people to hear. Sure, Sea Org members are entitled to 3 weeks of vacation every year. You can tell a new recruit that. What you don’t tell them is that in 17 years of being in the Sea Org, I never once saw anyone take those 3 weeks off. Every Scientology staff member and Sea Org member is entitled to 12.5 hours of study a week. Survey any organization in the world and you will consistently find only a small fraction of those staff go to study at all, and few bother to take their full 12.5 hours.
At every event I was going to, I was seeing Chairman of the Board, David Miscavige, touting statistics that I knew were false. Showing full courserooms that I knew were empty. Talking about hordes of people coming into these new orgs when I knew they were ghost towns. And it dawned on me that there were more lies than there was truth. That my own life had somehow become a string of “acceptable truths”.
So I decided to get out. At the time, I was on a Sea Org project in the Minnesota Ideal Org. I helped open the place up and we were supposed to get the staff to fill it up with new Scientologists. That was going nowhere. I mean, there are only about 130 Scientologists total in all of Minnesota and Wisconsin and the surrounding states. Yet despite it all, I still believed in L. Ron Hubbard and his tech, even if I thought the organization was off.
I went back to Los Angeles and I officially left the Sea Org in December 2012. I did not just blow. And it was shortly after this that the true face of Scientology was revealed to me.
About a month after I had left the Sea Org once and for all, with my feet pretty much on the ground, I went back to Minnesota. And when the Sea Org found out that I was going back to the last place where I had been on a Sea Org project, the last place I’d been a Sea Org member, all hell broke loose.
You see, they have a real thing about PR and image. When someone leaves the Sea Org, that’s a bad thing even if they do it right. Until they make up for what they did, ex-Sea Org members are pretty much considered the scum of the universe. Hubbard himself called them “degraded beings”.
So I was refused access to the Twin Cities org. I was forbidden to talk to or reach out to any Scientologist in that area. I was told that I was “really pissing off some important people” – whoever they were I was never told – and that it was off-the-rails that I had chosen to go to Minnesota. They really hated the idea that anyone would tarnish their delusionally polished image.
I spent months trying to sort this out to no avail. I was basically being treated like a bad guy, what they call a Suppressive Person. My reputation was being muddied by Ethics Orders from management to the org letting them know what a horrible person I had been in the Sea Org – despite the fact that I had a glowing reputation and consistently had produced well on any post I’d ever had.
I had made a few Facebook friends with Scientologists and had ethics reports written up on me for that. I dared to go out a few times in public with some local Scientolgist friends. Then before I knew it, I was being called to Los Angeles for a Committee of Evidence, which is like a criminal court in the Scientology world. Yeah – I finally got the reports on why this was being done and it was because of my social and Facebook activities.
This was all just too ridiculous for words. I had never seen anyone treated like this before. I started reading about Scientology on the internet and the experiences of other ex-Sea Org members and suddenly, all became clear. We call it going down the rabbit hole and I didn’t come up for 2 straight months. I learned things I had no idea about. I got answers to questions I’d forgotten I even had. Mysterious things that had happened during my time in the Sea Org were revealed. Hushed up, confidential issues and circumstances were laid bare by the very people who had done them, now no longer in the Church themselves and coming clean.
They did everything they could to make me into an enemy. The fact that I’m standing here today talking to you is really only because they pushed me out with a bulldozer. I’d even tried to make good and do the steps necessary per Church doctrine to be accepted again.
But the insidious and evil nature of Scientology’s justice system couldn’t be stopped. Because of their enforced disconnection policy, they took away the one person in my life who meant the most to me. For that I will never forgive them.
Shortly after, I was called up and told I was declared a Suppressive Person and was permanently expelled from the Church. It was good news. It was liberating news. I felt a weight off my shoulders. It wasn’t just a monkey off my back; it felt like a whole gorilla. And I’ve been speaking out ever since.
Now that being my background, I’d like to take a few more minutes and tell you about the most important lesson I’ve learned from Scientology.
People call Scientology a cult. And they’re right. It is a cult. But the last people who are ever going to know that, are the Scientologists.
“Cult” is an interesting word. It’s the root word for “culture” and “cultivate” and it has the same origins as the word “colony”. These words go back to an idea of a place where things are grown and where people lived. A fertile ground for raising things, which now has come to mean religious ideas.
Now any group or any culture has things about it that define its members as different from other groups or cultures. And that’s fine. Humanity revels in its differences across the planet and that’s not an inherently bad thing. We should celebrate our differences in dress, food, thought and even ideas of worship.
One of the things I’ve spent some time learning about is what makes a cult into a cult. Well, it’s pretty simple really. A cult takes those differences to a whole new level. It takes the natural diversity of life and villifies anyone who doesn’t come to agree with the way the cult leaders say things should be.
Let me give you some examples from my own experience. Now that I’m no longer a Scientologist:
– I no longer believe that L. Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige are somehow blessed with divine infallibility and are smarter than everyone else.
– I no longer believe that if the leaders of the nations of Earth would just listen to Scientology, then the Scientologists would set everything straight with the world.
– I no longer fear the consequences of asking too many questions about what’s going on with Scientolgy, like say, how many members there are or how much money it has in its off-shore bank accounts.
– I will no longer have to undergo hard labor or rigorous “ethics programs” if I get into trouble or ask too many uncomfortable questions about thigns I see that don’t make any damn sense.
– I no longer have to listen to anyone telling me how I should think or act or speak, or how to raise my kids or whether I can even get married and have kids.
– I no longer fear the Internet or have to be careful to screen out anti-Scientology data before it can threaten me or damage my immortal soul for all of eternity.
– I no longer believe that I am in a unique position to save all the other inferior human beings on this planet because of the special knowledge and status I have as a Scientologist.
– I no longer feel that the end justifies the means, nor that anything I do for Scientology is right just because it’s for Scientology.
– I no longer feel guilty or shameful for not giving all of my time and money to Scientology.
– I no longer feel like Scientology is more important than my family, my friends or pretty much anything else in my life, nor do I have to worry about having non-Scientologist friends or relationships.
– I no longer support the idea that Scientology needs lots and lots and lots of money to get things done and that it will never really have enough money to be secure enough to accomplish its goals.
– I no longer believe that it comes down to us Scientologists versus the rest of the delusional humanoids on this planet, nor do I have to wonder why everyone can’t see how great Scientology obviously is.
– And finally, I no longer live in fear of leaving the Church of Scientology because of what they might do to me, my family, my job or my life.
It feels really good to not have those things on my back anymore. All of those things are what make Scientology a cult.
Now here’s the trick to Scientology, or any other cult for that matter. Once you have someone in and you can convince them that they are in a special and unique place where they are superior and different from everyone else, then you’ve basically got them forever. Because then they will convince themselves that anything wrong with the group or what’s going on is just a temporary phase in its evolution. Everything is going to work out great in the end.
And if the person has any desire to help or make things better, which most people do, then it’s a pretty easy process to push that help button and make it feel like it’s their duty to work for the group. Sacrificing for the greater good is noble, right?
Having come out of this situation, I had some time to reflect on what got me in and kept me in for all those years. And it really did come down to the us versus them, black-and-white thinking.
Out of all the characterisitcs of a cult, that is the most damaging and dangerous. I mean, let’s put this in perspective for a minute. If you’re a Boy Scout, there’s nothing really wrong with thinking that the head of the Boy Scouts is a great leader. There’s nothing really wrong with donating all of your disposable income to the Boy Scouts, or singing their praises every chance you get.
But as soon as you get the idea that being a Boy Scout sets you apart from everyone else who is not a Boy Scout, and that you are somehow superior to everyone else because of that, now we have a problem.
If you are convinced that you are on the side of good and that you & your group can do no wrong, anything can be justified. Any action or punishment or penalty is totally within the bounds of reason. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. The primal urge to want to survive and to help others can be twisted into some pretty sick things. As the old saying goes, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
Coming out of that situation, my head was wrapped around a pole and it took me months to figure that out. The thing that got me out of this way of thinking and really turned it around for good was learning critical thinking skills.
And the most important thing I learned from it, is to not be afraid of knowledge. Cults preach that knowledge is dangerous and that you should purposefully keep your head in the sand. This is one of the most basic lessons in the first book of the Bible with the apple and forbidden knowledge and it’s dead wrong.
By exposing myself to as much knowledge and learning as I can, I’ve come to appreciate all sides of arguments and I’m much more able to see the nuances and shades of gray in almost any issue.
The world is not the black-and-white place that so many of us make it out to be. Like many religions and philosophies, even in Scientology there are things that make sense. There are parts and pieces of it that anyone can use to help himself and help others. But in Scientology, those things are buried deeply within a culture that has developed into an exclusive club whose ultimate cost is way too high. There is nothing in Scientology that can’t be gotten elsewhere. Scientology needs to go away forever.
The most important lesson of all, is that it doesn’t have to be “us vs. them”. Life is a big deal and we are all in this together. We can be individuals and still cooperate and coordinate and make things better for everyone.
My life is far better without Scientology in it. I hope by sharing my story with all of you, I’ve done some good today.
Thanks for listening.
Thank you for sharing with us the events you are participating in and what your message was. I get a lot out of hearing and reading what you are communicating. Each time I read and hear what you write I seem to be able to let go of a little more of the sense of violation I felt in the past when dealing with scientology, frustration that has stuck with me for all these years. Thank you for speaking out. You do a good job of it, I am glad you are part of the group of ex-scientologists actively saying there is something wrong, those willing to share their truth.
Curious-
How did you get this speaking opportunity of a room full of super engaged never ins? By the way, super interesting, and I would have stuck around for another 1/2 hour of their Q’s and your A’s. They had enthusiastic, smart questions and your answers are always fun, and insightful. Thanks for sharing.
I thought this was a very thorough and well-done speech that was informative and clear, especially to ones newer to the concepts of Scientology.
One point I found a bit surprising was that you stated in your Q&A session that you would’ve stayed in Scientology if you had seen other Orgs and doing well when you were assigned the duty of visiting and managing them? On one hand, it bolsters the stance I often hear and read, that parishioners are so cloistered in their own little world that they never try or are afraid to look ‘outside the bubble’, or to question anything that doesn’t come from the church. Also it shows how it can just take one thing to kind of put them over that hump, to start really waking up and see all the real truths in other things in the church that they never dared question or were just in denial about and put in the back of their minds. It kind of gives me hope that someday the friend I have who is such a steadfast and firm believer in the church now, might someday also get a grip on his critical thinking again, and even though I would risk being disconnected, maybe just planting a few seeds of doubt in his mind by offering some of the knowledge I have now have, might some day crack through the defense shield he puts up now whenever the subject comes up.
Also, I find it interesting that it seems to me that most people who do get out do so after they reach the state of Clear and beyond, and not on all the basic processing levels, if you would agree? That proves to me the point made that they entered into it with false hope and high expectations of grandeur that never materialized, but they kept going because they were so invested in it and didn’t want to admit all they believed in was a lie. When I presented this to my friend, his response was that he felt that no-one would ever go that far in anything they didn’t feel was working for them, and they must either be lying when after they did reach those higher states and were not happy, or they had ‘bad intentions’. (I can’t think of anyone who would want to invest thousands of dollars and countless hours of their precious time to get that far with their only intention being to find ways to bad-mouth the church!)
Anyway, I really hope the documentary of Going Clear makes as big an impact that it seems it might and that at least some of the truths from it pierce through the armor of some of the people still in. And thanks for all you are doing too–keep up the good work!
I love what you’ve said here, Chris.
I intend getting my son out of the SO this year. He’s been an SO member for a very long time. He’s convinced he’s doing the best thing he can do for the planet; and my challenge is to make him look at the truth.
I’m sure he’s observed many non-optimum situations all in the name of the greatest good. Sometimes, I believe, “He doth protest too much.”
However, he will be shocked and I’m thinking of the best way to introduce him to everything on a gradient that he can have but effect enough to still wake him up sufficiently not to go back. He’s coming to visit me and I’ll have to use any and every angle at my disposal to make sure he does arrive!
What you’ve written here I believe will resonate with him. It’s written from the heart and is factual. Thanks again.
@disco queen,
Your son doesn’t need your clever information and arguments and conditioning into your enlightened way of thinking about the world. That is cult think.
Your son needs your tender love and kind attention. Please do not give yourself the unholy goal of changing the way he thinks. You will fail.
Have a wonderful visit and shower him with attention and APPROVAL. Something he gets very little of in the cult. Make your home a VERY safe place and one day he will return there. Do not make him choose. This is cult think. Send him back from his vacation feeling warm and fuzzy from the time he spent with you. Make sure that is the lingering memory he carries with him. The cult shames him every day, don’t let yourself fall into that trap.
What a great communicator you are!
My Story Yet Untold
(an essay by mm)
What is the opposite of “critical thinking”?
Blindness.
It is investing your belief system into one source, rejecting the rest.
A “wog” is a person not a Scientologist, meaning any such person. That’s ok, to take an offense at that. The specific purpose of such a word is two-fold. First, you, as creator of your religion, you want to establish a hierarchy in which your followers see themselves either as blessed or endowed, especially with “special knowledge”, or, just plain superior in thinking than the otherwise ignorant others, the less important people. Second, you, dear leader, want to isolate your group from the ‘outside’, thoughts to threaten or possibly poison your precious, constructed creed. The last thing you want to do is have your followers harboring unsettling thoughts of doubt. Promise anything, but at the top promise the end of doubt. “If you want to empower a group, give them a common enemy.” (L. Ron Hubbard) That quote may sound out of context here, but it gives you a taste of how to methodically build your own cult of devoted slaves.
Ok, class. Thanks for attending. Make your own words, throw in plenty of acronyms, pretty soon you have a tightly knit group, one that only finds agreement within itself. Presto, now you can expect some degree of preservation through isolation. Now you and your followers are not talking to the rest of reason, now you are superior and everyone around you supports that thought, AND BELIEVE that you are so well-informed that there is no reason to waste time, talking to “squirrels”, excuse me, the wogs.
You are your own religion*, use you your own language. By that I mean the one your mother uses. Treat words only used by a single group, religion or cult as a buzzword, and give it a special flag as you log it into your intellectual construct, preferably red. As The Dali Lama says, “One must construct reality by the force of his own reason.” (Paraphrasing)
Now, the adventure begins.
*until you choose otherwise.
What is the relative importance of harboring critical thought?
Survival.
Just stand your ground. Question authority, relentlessly. Armed with answers, question again and you move, yes, higher, higher in the realm of consciousness. Faith, now there’s a topic worth rejecting. That essay could be complete in my book as one word, beginning, middle and end, faith. Please, I do plead; all I ask for is reason. Science is a good thing, as it assumes nothing, demands proof. Established proof gets a good dose of scrutiny for any scientist worth his salt.
Start talking in Scientolo-geese, and I’ll know you are probably full of Wog pooh. Yeah, an arrogant point of view, saying I’m more enlightened than your average “Clear”, so sue me.
You’re right. Yeah, I need to get over it. I might still have issues.
I’m lacking in accolades in what Scn has to offer. I am remiss in my due respect not mentioning the good things I got out of The Communication Course, thanks for reminding me. Plus there’s the fact that I was in pretty bad shape when I took that class. Getting into it like I did probably saved me from a big leap from the Golden Gate Bridge. I was heartbroken, having lost the girl I won the day I ran away from my clinically insane mother, age 16. Lord knows I needed something to believe in. But then I was quickly spending every waking moment doing Scn this, and Scn that. Words.
Every minute of every day after day, I was living in the commune, up there in Sheridan, Oregon. They called it The Delphian Foundation, or “Delphi”, the flagship property of: Church of Scientology Mission of Davis. I was empowered, indeed.
One source.
Soon, I was believing.
Believing is hard. You really have to force yourself. Once you accept a belief, however, it becomes hard not to. I was willingly enslaved, willingly dedicating the whole of my mind, body and future to the cause. I know, you think that’s just too incredible, but remember, it initially comes in small doses, and every win in auditing is recorded and celebrated in front of the group, with enthusiasm, by Scn. law, no wogs allowed.
I’m hoping that sufficiently explains how I got trapped.
How I got out okay is a story I’m likely motivated to write about from now until Kingdom Come, unless I witness the actual funeral of a certain church. If I had to boil it down to two words, however, those two words would be: Critical Thinking.
(Dedicated to those who speak; to be cont.)
You’re doing fine! Just keep going. This takes time.:-)
Just quickly, though I have heard versions of the story many times, yours was well explained and held my interest. I hadn’t guessed that you were brought in by family. What happened to Mom and Dad? Are they still in? Are any siblings in? Do you communicate? Is that the subject of another video?
Just speaking personally, part of my problem was the interconnectedness of it. If I walked it would upset a lot of people close to me and initially, it just didn’t seem worth it. Still, others around me, also close to the people already in the cult literally laughed at those of us inside. I went in and stayed in on my own accord. I should have wised up sooner. One of our number stayed in for 23 years. Another has been in Scientology/Freezone for about 43 years. In some ways I got off lucky.
Scientology literally offers world salvation and the path to total spiritual freedom. For me, it gave me a foothold as I struggled alone in the formative stage of identity in the cold and savage world of modern civilization.
In the end, however, in asking “What Is Scientology?” I came to a personal conclusion far more poignant than guidance for a sixteen year old.
The Scientology experiment is a model of how to methodically build and preserve an army of devoted minions, a hidden agenda that was not revealed to me until after I had begun to read the book, Going Clear, by Lawrence Wright.
(dedicated to Mary)
Wow! Referring to “Scientology literally offers world salvation and the path to total spiritual freedom.” in the post from mark marco. This is such a wonderful way to make the point that what someone or some organization offers is not necessarily anything they can deliver, or even what they really want to deliver. A very clear posting illustrating the old bait and switch.
On Chris Shelton’s recent video: WHAT IS SCIENTOLOGY?, that was awesome and it answered so many questions I had about the inner workings and tactics used. I am also so impressed with your presence and professionalism Chris as you are a dynamic speaker who communicates and engages well with your audience. I can see how “they” (SO) utilized your talents in your position that obviously made their organization shine bright and “represented” favorably. Good PR for sure. Thank you so much for doing what you do. I don’t have a horse in this race- Scientology has done nothing to me personally nor do I have any loved ones in their grips. However I am a critical thinker by nature and there is nothing OK about how they go about doing their deal (They dare call themselves a. CHURCH? Committing fraud as they do on so many levels but primarily tax exempt?!- etc. ETC. – don’t get me started). I have a huge problem with deception especially when an organization is so phony and manipulative with a tyrant at the helm benefiting at the expense of its member’s spiritual, emotional and mental (and financial) well being. It’s just WRONG WRONG. I proclaim the following challenge: Mr. Miscavage-TEAR DOWN YOUR WALLS !!!
Hi Mr. Shelton. I’ve been working today and playing all your videos in the background and it’s been nice. I’ve already listened to most of them once before, but I always remember better if I re-listen.
I heard you mention that when Tom Cruise’s cra cra video got leaked, it caused you a lot of grief. I hope you don’t mind if I ask you to expound on that experience, if you are so inclined and have the time. I’ll understand if you are not able.
Thank you for all your dedication and hard work. I can tell you are a man of dignity and I am grateful for that.