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Why Criticize Scientology?

When I was a part of the Church of Scientology and in the Sea Org, I always used to wonder about people who attacked Scientology. I wondered what motivated them; why did they seem so passionate about what they were doing. Why couldn’t they just leave well enough alone? Wasn’t it enough that they didn’t like it and left? Couldn’t they just leave us Scientologists alone to practice our religion in peace? Why did they have to spend so much time and effort going out of their way to write blog articles, be interviewed by the press, write books and even make whole movies about how bad the Scientology experience was? In other words, couldn’t they just live and let live?

We had lots of explanations fed to us about Church attackers in the Church, mainly out of the mouths of personnel from the Office of Special Affairs, (OSA), the Church’s legal arm.  In 2008, they carefully explained how Anonymous, for example, were a bunch of no-good hackers and bored teenagers who didn’t have anything better to do. We were told that between bouts of masturbating to internet child porn in their basements and doing drugs, they were being funded by some mysterious ringleader who organized their efforts in each org area and paid them with pizza and $10-20 an hour to go dance around in front of the orgs with signs reading “Ask me about Xenu” and “Scientology is a trap”. We were told that these mysterious ringleaders were being paid lots of money by Big Pharma to do away with Scientology because we (the Sea Org) were so effectively cutting into the profits from psychiatric drugging of children, profits which run into the billions of dollars per year. It’s ironic now, knowing how much money the Church is hording in its off-shore IAS bank accounts, how condemnatory they always were towards psychiatry and Big Pharma’s “billions in blood money.” I’ve never seen a better example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Church members are told that I and other critics are suppressive people who want nothing less than the utter destruction of all Mankind. They are told that it is because of our own wrong-doings that we are so critical of the Church of Scientology. Apparently in their eyes, Scientology is the only organization in the history of the world that can do no wrong and is above criticism of any kind. Its founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and its current leader, David Miscavige, are incapable of making any mistakes and are the most selfless and dedicated and altruistic human beings who have ever lived. Of course, this defies all logic and reason.

I worked for the Church for 25 years – most of my life. It was no easy task to make me into an enemy of Scientology. Even after I left the Sea Org, I was still dedicated to doing Scientology and making it to OT. The Church’s injustice machinery had to work overtime to turn me to the “dark side.” I can only thank them for that now, but at the time it was a journey much like that of Dante travelling to the lowest levels of Hell. I could never have taken such a life-altering journey without stumbling over some jaw-dropping milestones, the kind which change your outlook forever.

For example, I now know that:

  • The Church of Scientology is exclusively dedicated to just one thing: making money. Whatever purposes or aims it was founded upon, and no matter how it used to be run, that is its state now. It is actually a for-profit corporation hiding behind a cloak of religious authority, which gives it rights and privileges which no corporation should have. As a recognized religion in the US, Scientology can and does freely engage in stalking, harassment, emotional and psychological blackmail, human trafficking and slavery, all protected by the First Amendment right to the free practice of religion. It should not have this right. If any for-profit business tried to get away with what the Church of Scientology gets away with on a daily basis, they would be shut down by at least four government agencies within a few days of the first reports of abuse being filed.
  • L. Ron Hubbard died a self-admitted failure, hiding from the law and wanted for tax evasion, as well as being an unindicted co-conspirator in the Operation Snow White fiasco. He did not “go off to research upper OT levels” and “leave his body peacefully” as was falsely claimed by David Miscavige in 1986. He left a “last will” and instructions for certain organizational actions to be taken, but he did not provide any hat write-up nor did he choose his successor.
  • David Miscavige was among those who took advantage of Hubbard’s deteriorating mental state in his final years, feeding him false reports so as to isolate Hubbard further from what was really going on with Scientology and create a condition where it was easy for Miscavige to grab the reins of power once Hubbard was gone. Indeed, Miscavige had already effectively taken over control of Scientology and was freely spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in parishioner monies on his own excesses before Hubbard was even dead. Miscavige himself is a sociopathic liar who physically abuses his staff and has single-handedly managed to decimate International Scientology management beyond repair. His greatest skill is his ability to use PR to fool the remaining Scientologists into thinking that he is a great spiritual leader who is somehow the only person ensuring Scientology’s future. Ironically, the exact opposite is true, something the remaining Scientologists are going to be shocked to one day find out. Miscavige’s lies are already catching up with him at an alarming rate and he is not going to be able to keep his crimes under wraps for much longer.
  • In the late 1960s, Hubbard purposefully created, organized and operated a Gestapo-like intelligence operation known as the Guardian’s Office. Such an apparatus is one that simply begs to be used for abuse and that is exactly what it is doing. Hubbard’s wife, Mary Sue, played no small part in running the Guardian’s Office under Hubbard’s supervision, ruthlessly attacking anyone who dared to speak critically of the church so as to “ruin them utterly” according to Hubbard’s written policies. When the Guardian’s Office went too far and was rightfully busted for illegal actions taken directly against agencies of the U.S. government, it was nominally disbanded but in fact, its leaders, policies and operations really were just transferred en masse to the Office of Special Affairs, which continues to operate in the tradition of the Guardian’s Office, practicing the policy of “Fair Game” against anyone the Church’s leaders deem an enemy. To this day, they overtly and covertly carry out terror campaigns against church critics for doing nothing more than exercising their First Amendment right to speak their mind.
  • The Church has amassed literally billions of dollars in assets and liquid funds, yet disperses little to none of this money for any of its humanitarian purposes or “key strategies for planetary clearing” such as Ideal Orgs. It doesn’t need to collect one more dime from any parishioners in order to achieve its ends. The international Church coffers hold enough money to outright buy and renovate every current Church building in the world and build as many new ones as they want. There is enough money to easily produce millions of copies of The Way to Happiness and mail or even airdrop them all over the Middle East, Southeast Asia, North Korea and any other suppressed or war-torn region of the planet. It can afford to build and staff any number of Narconon Drug Rehabilitation Centers or Applied Scholastics schools all over the world. Planeloads of Volunteer Ministers could be sent to any trauma center or disaster zone at a moment’s notice. Yet Church money is hardly ever used for any of these purposes, and when it is disbursed it pays only enough to cover a tiny fraction of what is required. Every single time one of the things I’ve listed are needed, Scientology parishioners are told that they need to pay for it immediately because the Church doesn’t have the money. This is probably one of the most bald-faced lies that the church is operating on right now, giving its parishoners the impression that it is doing all this humanitarian work around the world, while in reality it is doing almost nothing. The only thing all this money is really going for is to satisfy the material needs of David Miscavige, who never wants for a single thing and is waited upon by numerous full-time support staff literally 24 hours a day.

Now having learned about all of these things in grim detail (and plenty more), I decided that I should do something to expose the truth. I’m not alone in this. There are organizations with hundreds or even thousands of members who work full-time to expose these same kinds of abuses, such as the American Civil Liberties Union and Amnesty International. I’m not comparing myself or other Scientology critics to these organizations in terms of the volume of good that we do, but I can safely say that we are working for the same purpose: to do our best to make the world a better place by exposing corruption, abuse, avarice and financial mis-dealings.

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No matter how or why you leave the Church of Scientology, when you find out what is really going on with and in it, you want to do something about it. You want those who are still inside, being blatantly deceived and cheated and abused, to not be stuck in that horrific situation. You want disconnected families to be re-united with their loved ones. You want real justice for those who have been so wronged by Church leaders, and you want to see those who are responsible for these abuses to be held accountable.

That is why I am speaking out and I believe that is the motivating force behind most of the other critics as well. That is why we don’t have a “live and let live” philosophy when it comes to leaving Scientology alone. No organization that is carrying out the kinds of abuses every day that I have described above deserves to keep living. It is time for the Church of Scientology to end. That is why I speak out and why I hope that through my work, I can convince others to do the same.

48 thoughts on “Live and Let Die: Why Criticize Scientology?”

  1. Curious to know what you were doing and where you where at the precise moment you had the realization that Scientology was complete and total bullshit.

    1. I was on mission in Twin Cities org in Dec 2011, thinking about the subject of recruitment. I realized that in order to recruit someone for staff (or reg them, for that matter), I had to tell them more lies than truth. And I realized that my entire life was based around a subject that required lying to people on a daily basis for its very survival. There was no avoiding it or getting around it or justifying it. We were lying to our parishioners are every single event, in every single recruitment interview and every time I recovered someone who was blown from Scientology. And I realized that “acceptable truths” were no longer acceptable.

  2. Hi Chris,
    I was on staff in Perth, Australia for 5 years back in the 80’s.
    The things you say really ring true to me.
    Before a month ago, I had no idea about a lot of things.
    Then I read Nancy Manny’s book aswell as a couple of others.
    It is interesting the way a person is indoctrinated into not looking at the criticizims directed toward Scientology. You said it so well when you mentioned ” window dressings ” on the outside but on the inside totally judgemental, hypocritical and intolerant etc.
    When I left Scientology because of the pressure, in the back of my mind I was waiting for that runaway bus to hit me or something else bad to happen to me. But the only bad thing was the mental seed that they planted. Very much mind control.
    Thankyou for your extremely interesting truths. I really like hearing what you have to say.
    Thanks Mate!!!

  3. Scientology Inc. puts out the extraordinary belief that nothwithstanding its 40-year crime wave, it somehow works for the benefit of all.

    Beautifully written essay Chris. High fives and carry on.

    1. Many of you still-ins will know Karen de la Carriere as an LRH-trained Class XII C/S. What you might not know is that Karen is also one of the most respected critics of David Miscavige’s ‘church’. I highly recommend you taking a look at her brilliant, eye-opening YouTube channel, Surviving Scientology: https://www.youtube.com/user/SurvivingScientology It will move you, anger you, it might make you cry, and it will certainly make you think.

    1. I have yet to see a “Clear” for that matter. Nor have I seen any O Tee Powerz, I really want to see those in action. But alas, there is none.

      Bummer

    2. Hell, Scientology can’t even clear its own Sea Org! How are they going to “Clear the Planet” when they can’t even clear the SO?

  4. Nice job, Chris. You have perfectly accomplished here (even more cogently than in your excellent videos) what I have been proposing on The Underground Bunker for a while now: Targeting Practising Scientologists with the information that they will be the most shocked and intrigued by, rather than trying to give them ‘the whole picture’ (which is simply too enormous and sometimes runs into the twisted defenses of the church.)

    I was very surprised to hear Ex-Sea Orgers saying that what woke them up was Miscavige’s lifestyle. Not so much the violence, or the money-grubbing, or the lies and espionage, but the idea that they were busting their humps on rice and bean s while he sleeps in on high-thread-count sheets after a night of scotch, Blu-Rays and giving his ‘communicator’ an oral exam.

    I was surprised by this because in Evangelical Christian sects, there are preachers lining large in a very public fashion while their poorer parishioners can’t hand over their hard-earned cash fast enough? They don’t car that he’s in a caddy, God wants him to be and he looks good! Somehow I thought Scientologists might think the same way, but this is one mental deficiency they have been mercifully spared.

    This is why people like you are invaluable and can do so much more than those of us fighting from the outside. I’ve read a lot, know a lot of ex and current Scilons, but try as I might I don’t truly know what it is like to be inside.

    You do. And you are doing an excellent, excellent job.

    Sorry for the long post. Thanks.

  5. Another critic once said “Scientology [and what’s wrong with it] is hard to explain without several hours and some graphs and charts.” And even then, it’s more than most people want to wrap their brains around.
    As a never-in who has been speaking out about Scn, Inc. for more than 20 years, I am finding your perspective to be very valuable in your posts and videos. You’ve been through so much but you can still talk about it in a way that helps it make sense for others, and you do it gently and without vitriol. It’s easy to find something horrible about Scientology [throw a dart] but it’s hard to shine light on it in a meaningful way that will truly help others. Thanks for all you’re doing.

  6. Thank you Chris, for what you are doing here. More and more people who were so afraid even a few years ago to leave the church because the heavy hand that is OSA was always poised to strike, are leaving in larger and larger numbers. And that is all because of people like you and Mike R. and Marty and Tory and Amy S. and Laura D.and Mark Bunker ect. ect. ect. 🙂

    I love that I could go on and on with names of people here on the outside of the church, all speaking out to help those still in. It means that the OSA hand is getting smaller and smaller, less harmful and people have stopped giving them any power these days. More and more lawsuits against the church in the last couple years and so many new ones this year. And even COB’s gaggle of high priced attorneys have come up against a wall in the courtrooms, something they are not used to at all.

    You came out at a very great time, Chris! And I am happy that you will be out here to see what actually happens from now on, not still in and getting the same old line about us critics 🙂

    All the best,
    T.
    (never in, but on your side out here)

  7. You have become one of 2014’s most important critics, primarily because you speak to those still inside Scientology and you speak to them without patronising or mocking. Yours is a message still-ins can grasp and work with. You’re brilliant, Chris 🙂

    i_B

  8. I wanted to thank you for your series of videos. Please tell me you will do more. Your presentation and manner is perfect for those still-in, clear, precise, no HE & R and plenty of LRH quotes.

    StatPush

  9. What a great and appropriate Churchill quote – never heard that one before.

    Gotta tell ya, Chris – the combination of your experience, insight, and articulation makes for one hell of a COS nemesis. Couldn’t be happier that you’re on the right team and speaking out.

    I look forward to what’s to come.

  10. Yes, Chris,

    You have a special gift of clear communication despite Scientology. You are a rising star in the whistle-blower community and I thank you for your telling it like it is.

    I wonder when the mainstream will stop believing CO$’s blanket, stupid denials (“I know every inch of Mike Rinder’s body”, etc) and start believing the atrocities.

    1. FWIW? I think they already don’t believe the CoS, but it is still difficult to get your head around the enormity of the Church’s crimes. It just soudns too horrible and most folld say, this is AMerica, right?

      Also, there is a tendency to think ‘I’d never join somehting that stupid; They must have brought this on themselves’. Thez ‘church’ lays on both these things..

      Strangely, the Sout Park pieve, whilst doubtless hsurting reruitment helps the church a bit (as did the two slightly mocking shorts I they sued me over), because if they are just silly alien-believers, and easy punchlines, how scary/sinister can they be, really?
      Could those idiots really be running human trafficking, government infiltration, etc?

      I speak from personal knowledge- This mindset is hard to snap out of.

      Try it yourself- Try and Speak about Scientology honestly, starting with the biggest stuff to someone and watch them turn off as they take you for a flat-earth conspiracy nut or 9/11 Truther.

  11. Thanks Richelieu, makes perfect sense. They benefit for being so criminal that it is hard to believe.

    One unrelated question I have had is — when they pull in for “sec checking” for something that you didn’t do, do you have to make-up a crime to get out of there? Like “David miscavage punched me because I killed someone a trillion years ago”. That is something that I always wondered — what you have to do to get out of there. It sounds like such a hellish and psychologically atricious position to be in.

    1. YEs, you do.

      It reminds me of a stroy about a prisoner in Guantano who everyone, the White House, the CIA, the FBI, him, is familyand guards knew he was innocent; His interrogator himself sent whole series of momoes up thechain of command on this subject, yet even when the BUsh admin caved tor elaity and started releasing prosponoers, he was not among them.. Why? He hadn’t ‘confessed’.

      His interrogator leaned into him in the middle of questioning and said, ‘Confess, son. Because no one innocent will ever leave this place.”

      This is the problem with sec-checking and other forms of torture (and people have gone insane during sec-checks. A good book from one victim is ‘My BIllion-Year Contract”– If someone is innocent,t that means the interrogation/torture was unnecessary and misguided and therefore impossible to justify- The person ‘interrogated’ MUST therefore be guilty, because otherwise the questioner/System is.

      The objective of torture in torture. And the objective of Sec-Checking (and the RPF, and even auditing) is Control.
      As in the end of 1984, the victim has to accept the punishment, otherwise it hasn’t worked.

      1. All I can say is “chilling” and that this psychological holocaust needs to be shut down immediately.

        1. I agree; And speaking of torture,t hank you for making to through my typo-ridden, English and spelling error-full posting. I am so embarrassed! I don’t have English spell-check and just now I tried to read it again and it was awful!

          You are very brave!

  12. I love your work. In fact you verbalize some things ive been unable to make sense of in myself. For a long time I thought if I embodied the “live & let live” concept about Scientology then maybe I could somehow move forward in life and my career without their interference. Its impossible. I can’t even believe I thought I could. After studying more and reading about what sea org members were forced to live through, the unhuman conditions, sleeping on floors for years, the deaths, there can be no tolerance for scientology. I still have a hard time explaining to my family what it was like and why I had to get out and its nothing close to what S.O members endured. You and some other x’s are helping me get it through my thick head that this will never be a “live & let live” group. Theyre never gonna let us live. I’m slowly embracing that fact. My conditioning is still peeling away and its ugly. Thank you for doing what youre doing. Take care. Carmen

    1. Thank you Carmen, they’re messing with you mightily and that pressure has caused many an ex to fold or be “shuddered int silence.” You have an army of support out here. Stay loud.
      Artoo45

  13. It’s always the same thing. Joe joins a fringe religious because he lacks basic commonsense. For years, Joe will willingly chose to obey the rules of the religion and will donate his time and money to the same. He never complains about any of these choices at the time they are made but it’s what he wants to do. Then several years later, something happens, and Joe angrily splits from his religion

    Guess what happens next. All those choices that he once made to obey policy NOW become “abuse.” That is, even though these choices were “abuse” at the time they were made, they are nevertheless “abuses” now because Joe is regretful.

    But that’s not how abuse works. Whether an act is abusive is determined at the time the act occurs … not 25 years later when you are a pissed off and regretful. The only thing Joe is a victim of is his own poor decision making skills and lack of commonsense.

    In your case it is Scientology, but it very well could have been Mormonism, the Anabaptists, Jehova’s Witnesses, etc.

    I realize you had a bad experience and left on acrimonious terms. But just because Scientology didn’t work for you doesn’t mean all other Scientologists are “stuck” or “abused.” You don’t get to make that determination on behalf of others. While I view Scientology as a giant load of poo, if Joe wants to donate his time and money to Scientology, that’s his choice and right.

    Now, if you have hard evidence that criminal actions are going, such as financial mis-dealings, then I encourage you to bring it to the attention of a criminal prosecutor so the wrongdoer’s can be prosecuted. Do something about it! Don’t just sit there and make generic and vague accusations on your blog. What good does that serve?

    Chris, I’m going to give you the same advice that I told a friend of mine recently who is struggling with a break-up with his girlfriend. You really need to just let it go and move on with your life.

    1. Thank you, Reality, for clearly and concisely stating the Church’s justification for what we in the real world call “blaming the victim.” Abuse is abuse whether it happens now or was 20 years in the past. Those who take advantage of and harass, injure or ruin others for a living deserve to have the light of truth shone on them no matter how old their crimes. I actually get to make any statements I want – that’s a freedom I have now that I’m no longer under the oppression of Scientology. I know this is a foreign concept within Scientology, but it’s a right I intend to exercise for the rest of my life. The Church wishes that I would “just move on” because OSA cannot take responsibility for or deal with the consequences of its actions. I have moved on quite wonderfully in my life and I’ve never been better. But to expect me or anyone else to “let it go” is to miss the entire point of this blog article. You can pass on to your OSA handlers that I have no intention of shutting up now or ever. And unfortunately for you, the number of people on my side is growing every single day.

      1. You said, “….what we in the real world call ‘blaming the victim.’”

        No, “blaming the victim,” is what happens when we blame someone who didn’t have a choice in the matter. Scientologists most certainly have a choice.

        You said: Abuse is abuse whether it happens now or was 20 years in the past.

        Way to completely misread what I said. I encourage you to put down your anger and listen. What I said is whether a particular act is “abuse” is determined by looking at the act at the time it occurred. Just because you regret your past choices does not make it okay to classify your regrets as abuses.

        You: “But to expect me or anyone else to ‘let it go’ is to miss the entire point of this blog article.”

        Dude, I don’t care if you let it go. Spend the rest of your life blaming Scientology for all your bad choices like an irresponsible child for all I care.

        1. I’m posting your response because it’s a wonderful example of two logical fallacies which I’d like for my readers to see close-up: (1) instead of taking up the actual substance of my article, you’ve created a straw man argument for me to “fight against” as to what is or is not “abuse” versus individual choice (somehow you think this is a better argument to make, which itself is ridiculous but it has nothing to do with my article); (2) you are engaging in some kind of weak ad hominem (name calling) by comparing me to an irresponsible child. Nice try but this is a blog about critical thinking. You’re going to have to try a little harder if you want to actually make real points against me. And by the way, your OSA is showing because you clearly do care as you keep coming back here. If you didn’t really care, you never would have tried to shut me up in the first place.

          1. Thank you Chris for standing up to ‘stuff’. I enjoy reading your blog so very much and it is very helpful to me, which I share with others. Because of this, they try, haha, to stop you and you so easily see this… love it!

            A ‘Bravo’ to you, with love, for sure!
            Dee

        2. Reality:

          But the point here is THERE ARE ABUSES, since the time they promise you fix your life in the test center and they ripp-off your money under that promise never fullfing it. That it’s an abuse.

          Moreover, they emotionally blackmail you every time that you complain about sometingh.

          At least when someone beat the shit of you, you can see it coming.

    2. Dude, you are clearly very ill-informed about the nature of Scientology and what goes on: Human trafficking, children in bilge-lockers and cages, The Hole, etc….

      And the FBI has indeed launched several investigations that strangely fell apart, much to the anger of the agents involved.
      This, of course, doesn’t even touch on Operation Snow White (the largest infiltration of the US Government in the US History) or Operation Freakout (in which a journalist was framed for terrorism and intentionally pushed to the brink of suicide), both of which you could Google instead of presuming this is a fit of pique by a guy who woke up too late. Forced abortions, kidnapping, sequestration, death by starvation, and many more are part of their greatest hits. Look up Lisa McPherson, then come back and talk.

      The number and quantity of Scientology’s crimes is such that it nearly protects the religion because people like yourself have a knee-jerk reaction that it can’t really be that bad or something would have happened/Someone would have done something about it.

      It is also important to differentiate between the people who are just normal Scientologists (‘publics’ in the jargon) and those in the SeaOrg, the ‘Space Navy’ who have signed away all of their human rights for the ext Billion (yes, with a ‘b’) years.

      Until recently the extremely litigious nature of the cult kept nearly everyone from speaking out. Now its traditional weapons are losing their ability to strike fear in hearts and silence critics, thankfully.

      Ignorance and a tendency to blame the victim still work, however. I presume you are reacting in good faith, as I was when I took Scientology to be a funny Hollywood religion full of people too rich to know what to do with their money (not that there is not truth to this stereotype, either). It took my getting sued twice for nothing (no big deal, I’m not crying over it) to look more deeply and I was shocked by what I found. And by how much proof there is.

      I would encourage you to take a minute and look a little more deeply. A good place to look is with Chris’ videos (though part of their power comes from the factt hat they are aimed at people still in the clutches of the CoS.

    3. “All those choices that he once made to obey policy…”

      ‘Policy’ is such a Scientology word in this context, isn’t it? That’s the problem with people who are sent by OSA to infiltrate sites critical of CoS; their CoS vocabulary and phrasing has become so normal to them that they can’t help but give themselves away immediately 🙂

      1. Ha! You got him, i-Betty!

        It’s true, it is hard for these Scilons dead-enders to talk like normal people…

        He got me (though it was taking a great effort to presume goodwill)…. I notice Chris was on to him right away. Yet again more proof of why intelligent exes are so valuable.

    4. So by your logic, people in abusive relationships “pulled it in” themselves. He beat her up? Well, he was fine when she married him. Must be her fault. Right?

      Yikes.

  14. Hi Chris,

    My child in a Twin Cities public middle school recently had a “Truth about Drugs” Lesson, complete with filling out some worksheets along with it. He just recently recognized the pamphlet he’d been given on an IAS video we were watching on the Underground Bunker. He kept going back in the video until he could find the frame of the pamphlet, and then he was kind of shocked as he explained his health teacher had given this lesson in school this spring.

    The pamphlet and website are from “drugfreeworld” and say nothing about scientology or narcanon – but if you go the website, apparently the referral numbers have taken people to narcanon (according to a Wikipedia article).

    My son and I went back through the pamphlets which are posted online and we found line by line some of the very tricky persuasion techniques designed to make kids distrust any psychiatric help. Some overt, some more subtle. Are you interested in making a video I could forward links to teachers and district people in the Twin Cities?

      1. Again, the “drugfreeworld” site and materials stand alone, do not refer back to narcanon or scientology – except possibly through the phone numers if you call for help.

        Here is the direct link to the site:
        http://www.drugfreeworld.org/#/interactive

        Here is the “order your kit for educators” link:
        http://www.drugfreeworld.org/takeaction/anti-drug-education-package-details.html

        Here is the Scientology website where “Foundation for a Drug Free World” and it’s work are featured – along with links to the site above.

        Thanks so much, Chris. As regular Bunker readers, I and my kids were really shocked how these materials flew under the radar, and that’s why we did the line by line analysis to counteract any lingering misunderstandings.

      1. you can see the exact pamphlets (flip through them page by page) on the site itself above. drugfreeworld.org

        probably all the traffic makes them happy – downside

        1. Yes, thanks Kate– I do this by email, so I only saw that you’d already posted the links after I’d responded; Thanks for that!

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